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texasboy:
 ::). Just three companies - BP, Centrica and Shell - together made £1,000 profit every second over the first six months of this year.

"These corporations are robbing from the poor to give to the rich(poor shareholders) and they know it. And it's about time they learned that, in a progressive democracy, there is no place for robber barons."

http://latestnews.virginmedia.com/news/uk/2008/09/06/greens_leader_slams_robber_barons

Rising fuel costs have provided the Government with a windfall of as much as £1 billion from a scheme designed to promote renewable energy, it has been reported.
http://latestnews.virginmedia.com/news/uk/2008/09/06/energy_costs_netted_treasury_1bn?vmsrc=pamread

So we are getting screwed from both sides. As a pensioner if I had to exist on the £109 per week(after paying into the scheme for 50 years) that the Labour government kindly provides ,then I wouldnt be able to afford to turn this PC on. The present Labour government hasnt got the balls to stand up for its own people and keeps adding taxes to hopefully kill off all the old people who now  have a choice this winter. Buy fuel or buy food.
Enough said.
cheers

Quantum:
It's not the job of the U.K Government to tax British companies for profits their making from non-British ventures, maybe if they made the money of us then I'd agree with it, but it's actually a highly competitive Energy market.

If we start asking companies to subsidies our energy then we're only inviting the big companies to create a monopoly.

texasboy:

--- Quote from: Quantum on September 06, 2008, 07:50:01 am ---It's not the job of the U.K Government to tax British companies for profits their making from non-British ventures, maybe if they made the money of us then I'd agree with it, but it's actually a highly competitive Energy market.

If we start asking companies to subsidies our energy then we're only inviting the big companies to create a monopoly.

--- End quote ---
Of course we are not asking for Gas and Oil companies to subsides our energy. and we are not asking the Labour government to tax  companies who are ripping us off. We are asking for a government that  can set prices that the pensioners can provide reasonable heating for their homes in winter,with some left over to provide basic meals.. Some of us ,probably including yourself, have a good family background and not living on £109 per week would not see this as a problem. Check out the post office on pension day or older people round the "reduced" shelves in the supermarket.
Visit another EU country and see the difference they are paying for fuel and gas. I can drive 20 miles to Ireland and get 15-20p per litre off the price of diesel.(even cheaper on continent).  Is our government too greedy with taxes or have they driven themselves into a financial hole. Many of us need a car to reach work where public transit is poor or non existant.(most public transit shuts down at 10.30pm here).
What we now have to pay for fuel and gas is not a true reflection of current prices with a reasonable profit margin. Wish I could afford a few shares ,then I could show the fingers like the rest of them ::)
cheers

Quantum:
You bring up 2 very separate points there:

1) Poor off families / individuals should not have to pay as much to live in warmth

And I completely agree with this, government needs to subsidies them, but it means tax for the rest of us either way. Either Government raises it through taxes on businesses / income taxes etc.. or we mandate companies to do it and they'll likely raise everyone else's and then be able to use that an excuse if they do overcharge us.

2) The cost of fuel is more in the U.K than anywhere else in Europe

While true, the average cost of driving on the road is very normal compared to the rest of Europe. Just countries like France charge far more on road tax and we don't really have to pay tolls here as well. When we're talking about a more green country, it seems fair that the cost of tax you're paying is proportional to the amount of pollution you're making.

texasboy:
While somewhat agreed with you Quantum,(who wants to drive in France anyway). We have tolls on our new motorways. Why do you think that truckers fill their tanks outside UK?

There shouldnt be any extra tax on us if we had a government that knew how to manage their budget. Millions allocated to NHS recently and wasted on red tape instead of helping the people. Waiting times for surgery are no better.
At the bottom line we are becoming the most overtaxed nation.
At least some of the Scandanavian countries who deliberately charge higher taxes, provide excellent care for their elder citizens.
Time to get spongers off the benefits. England is set to become one of the highest densely populated countries with not all paying any form of taxes
cheers
Even a rental car in Spain is cheaper than driving in UK

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