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texasboy:
Well how do you folks feel now?? http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20091003/tuk-brown-hails-irish-eu-yes-vote-a7ad41d.html
Only Poland and Czech s to go.
A european president (our friend Blair) a European army, really no need for UK Parliament as all decisions will be made with the fat cats in Brussels. Sad day. Even though I`m not a Tory, I hope Cameron can put a spoke in all this. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20091003/tuk-cameron-vows-to-fight-eu-treaty-desp-a7ad41d.html
cheers

billyfridge:

--- Quote from: texasboy on October 03, 2009, 05:33:53 am ---Well how do you folks feel now?? http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20091003/tuk-brown-hails-irish-eu-yes-vote-a7ad41d.html
Only Poland and Czech s to go.
A european president (our friend Blair) a European army, really no need for UK Parliament as all decisions will be made with the fat cats in Brussels. Sad day. Even though I`m not a Tory, I hope Cameron can put a spoke in all this. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20091003/tuk-cameron-vows-to-fight-eu-treaty-desp-a7ad41d.html
cheers

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God help us..... [sad]

Quantum:
We're stronger together than apart  ;D

And the simple fact of the matter is there is far too much bureaucracy in the current system, the whole idea of European expansion was that the current system wasn't good enough so we'll change it when we start adding members and unfortunately that fell apart. Now we'll get a proper system! And you honestly think the rest of Europe will stop just because of Poland and the Czech Republic?

texasboy:

--- Quote from: Quantum on October 03, 2009, 07:17:29 pm ---We're stronger together than apart  ;D



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You must be joking Quantum.!! or maybe a Labour supporter. Look at some of the facts of "being together" with Labour.

"All the good things that labour have given us"? !
Record unemployment
A decoupled banking system
Record benefits payouts
Uncontrolled immigration
Gold sold off at one of its lowest levels since trading started
Pensions destroyed
Our contribution to the EU INCREASED by 60%
The highest levels of illiiteracy and innumeracy since pre-Victorian times
Policemen 'on the beat' for an average of 6 hours A WEEK
BILLIIONS invested in an NHS IT system that STILL doesn't work
The 10p tax band ABOLISHED
The promised referendum on the Lisbon treaty refused
The greatest expansion of unelected quangos since they were established
'Prudence' Brown and his joke of a Chancellor having to print money to get us out of the fiscal hole THEY put us into
....Oh, yes please, let's please have another few years of that, foisted on the electorate by an UNELECTED Prime Minister...

Not to mention the BILLIONS of £££`s the UK spends courtesy of Blair on wars this small nation should never have been involved in.
The fat cats in Brussels will be rubbing their hands in glee at our expense.
So "NO" I completely disagree with your point.
cheers

Quantum:
Well I can't really defend the government against a whole bunch of unsubstantiated comments. So I'm just going to pull out one that's completely false and assume I can't trust the rest:

Record unemployment

Only if you mean we've had record lows of unemployment. Under the Tory government it hit 3 million, that's never happened under New Labour which is pretty fantastic given 3 million is a lower % of the population now.

I'm not saying this Government is perfect, or at times any good, but I think overall they've been a positive force and I don't trust that the Tory's will be the same.

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