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Title: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: chip! on October 28, 2008, 07:38:04 am
Here's some new features of Windows 7 revealed today at the PDC2008 conference:

http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/PDC_2008%3A_The_7_Coolest_New_Features_in_Windows_7


More info and good break down of the new User Interface:

http://www.neowin.net/news/live/08/10/28/introducing-the-windows-7-ui




what do you guys think?


i think it could be very nice, considering also that they are projecting that it will be smaller and lighter than vista, using the same hardware..


Windows 7 is supposed to be released late in 2009 or early 2010.  (last time i checked)..




more screen shots:   http://winfuture.de/screenshots/Windows-7-Meilenstein-3-Build-6.1.6780-3500-2.html


attached:
-Screenshot of a new Windows 7 build 6801 showing the redesigned taskbar
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: Bovski on October 29, 2008, 07:03:55 pm
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4379/windows7aj6.png)
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: texasboy on October 30, 2008, 06:49:10 am
 ;D Where on earth did you find this one bovski.LOL
cheers
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: MinLo on October 30, 2008, 03:24:58 pm
 :D :D Bovski  :D :D

At first glance I thought that the ad was for real because I skimmed through. Then I saw pirate edition and and read the description and was like WTF til I read the other spoof's ..... ;D
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: xSyn on November 17, 2008, 10:16:02 pm
It slightly looks like their taking a Linux standpoint. Not using the normal taskbar and such. The startmenu and everything looks like Vista, but everything else seems to look a bit more like a Linux view then a Windows view.
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: MinLo on November 19, 2008, 06:25:22 am
Here's some new features of Windows 7 revealed today at the PDC2008 conference:

http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/PDC_2008%3A_The_7_Coolest_New_Features_in_Windows_7


More info and good break down of the new User Interface:

http://www.neowin.net/news/live/08/10/28/introducing-the-windows-7-ui




what do you guys think?


i think it could be very nice, considering also that they are projecting that it will be smaller and lighter than vista, using the same hardware..


Windows 7 is supposed to be released late in 2009 or early 2010.  (last time i checked)..




more screen shots:   http://winfuture.de/screenshots/Windows-7-Meilenstein-3-Build-6.1.6780-3500-2.html


attached:
-Screenshot of a new Windows 7 build 6801 showing the redesigned taskbar


Chip have they released the possible min specs required yet??
Wouldn't it be funny if it failled as miserable as Vista and XP still was the popular choice and percentage leader  :D
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: Quantum on November 19, 2008, 01:12:02 pm
Chip have they released the possible min specs required yet??
Wouldn't it be funny if it failled as miserable as Vista and XP still was the popular choice and percentage leader  :D

They've stated before now that they're aiming for "no more" than the Vista requirements, I think they'd quite like lower but ultimately it's going to be a very polished version of Vista. The pre-beta is has to be said doesn't appear to be much of an indication of what changes are in store in terms of performance (very little difference), so we'll just have to wait for betas to come out and see how it develops.
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: chip! on November 19, 2008, 04:19:54 pm
the more videos that i watch about Windows 7, the more i cant wait to have it.... it looks awesome.. finally what an OS should do.

it borrows a lot from Linux and Mac OS, but all 3 of the OS's have been borrowing from each other for years and years, so i dont care about that..

i am excited for Windows 7 because it looks like the best GUI for controlling your open/running programs that I have seem on any platform yet..  not to mention its a Windows machine, so we dont have to deal with the *nix community for software nor the Apple monopoly on your life (if you go that route)...


minor recap on Windows progression.. that i remember clearly.. 

pre 3.1 is kinda fuzzy for me, so i'm leaving that out.. but clearly... DOS -> 3.1 was HUGE!
i just dont think there were any major/serious competitors prior to Windows 3.1..  OS2 and Apple IIe didnt come out strong until around the 3.1 era? (anyone wanna look up the specifics on that?)


Windows 3.1 --> 95.. huge improvement..

Windows 95 ---> 98... not much improvement.. 

Windows 98(&me) --> XP..  huge improvemtent..

Windows XP --> (&vista) --> Windows 7...    amazing improvement..    (however, i cant STAND windows XP.. imho, what a shitty OS compared to how user friendly Vista is.)..   

who has thoughts on that? :)
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: MinLo on November 19, 2008, 06:26:13 pm
I had to fix and secure a Vista comp for my girlfriends mom and I though it was terrible.....Right after Vista had released she bought a computer with it installed......Besides having to search for drivers for her printer (even though the printer box advertised "Vista ready out the box"), finding her a free firewall was a pain at the time(at the time it was either PC TOOLS new one or the built in Windows firewall)........Tera's mom and the other people who lived there had minimal comp knowledge......Everytime I went to her moms house I would run Spybot and Adaware, I would get gigantic amount of problem results........Plus the fricken permissions popup got so annoying.....

I have only used XP and Vista extensively.......I've been on comps with DOS,3.1, ME but never owned one enough to tinker with them......

I hope ur optimism is right Chip because I DO NOT WANT VISTA but I want something better than XP!

@Q, do you beta test for Microsoft at all?......If you do or read something I'd appreciate your input once the ball starts rolling on Win 7.....
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: Quantum on November 20, 2008, 05:52:14 am
Yeah I do a bit of beta testing, I'll post about it when I start  :)
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: Jaxx89 on February 15, 2009, 09:44:08 am
I have been testing Windows 7 for about a week now
and imho I love it of course being the beta there are lotsa problems, but i was jus bored of my previous os XP and dint want Vista.
It is a huge improvement and i'm really happy that finally the disappointment of Vista will come to an end
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: TheHalf™ on April 03, 2009, 04:07:13 am
This is a follow-up to chip's initial post:

Windows 7 which has the build number of 7068 has been leaked to the web, specifically the BitTorrent (BT) network. There are several websites posting the news which seem to come about 3 days ago (I dunno), but I digress...here are a few links to a gander at;

BlogsDNA 1: http://www.blogsdna.com/2794/windows-7-build-7068-x86-32-bit-leaked-on-torrent.htm (http://www.blogsdna.com/2794/windows-7-build-7068-x86-32-bit-leaked-on-torrent.htm)

BlogsDNA 2: http://www.blogsdna.com/1943/windows-7-activation-keys-to-activate-your-windows-7-beta-1.htm (http://www.blogsdna.com/1943/windows-7-activation-keys-to-activate-your-windows-7-beta-1.htm)

Windows7Center: http://windows7center.com/windows-7-news/windows-7-build-7068-x86-download-leaked/ (http://windows7center.com/windows-7-news/windows-7-build-7068-x86-download-leaked/)

MyDigitalLife: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/03/28/windows-7-build-7068-x86-and-x64-32bit-and-64bit-with-all-sku-bt-torrents-download-links/ (http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/03/28/windows-7-build-7068-x86-and-x64-32bit-and-64bit-with-all-sku-bt-torrents-download-links/)

TheHalf™
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: Synbios on April 27, 2009, 12:53:10 pm
It's quite possible to get a legit version of the Windows 7 Beta. I downloaded the MSDN image file and registered for a FREE official key from Microsoft. I am currently running Windows 7 Ultimate Build 7000 on one of my computers and it's running flawlessly. The performance does seem a lot better than Vista, especially boot times. The interface does look a lot cleaner and I love the new taskbar.

Overall, it's not too much different from Vista, but it's definitely a noticeable improvement in both performance and interface, so in my eyes that's one good windows upgrade.

The only thing I have to complain about is the name. Vista is Windows 6.0 and Windows 7 is 6.1. I think calling it Windows 7 was a bad idea...

Lets quickly go through some of the recent major windows releases:
Windows 5.0: 2000
Windows 5.1: XP
Windows 6.0: Vista
Windows 6.1: Windows 7
 
This does not make any apparent sense to me. Are they thinking that this is the naming scheme? ->

1: Windows 3.1
2: Windows 95
3: Windows 98
4: Windows 2000
5: Windows XP
6: Windows Vista
7: Windows 7

This is the only thing I can think of.
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: fuzzytomcat on April 27, 2009, 06:03:18 pm
It looks pretty cool, they say you cant tell the difference from the real thing ...

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk15/fuzzytomcat/windows_70.jpg)

I hear you can't upgrade from XP to 7.0 only from Vista, you have to buy the full new install, which from Microsoft is expected.

;D

Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: Quantum on April 28, 2009, 03:31:25 am
I hear you can't upgrade from XP to 7.0 only from Vista, you have to buy the full new install, which from Microsoft is expected.

;D

It's expected from any company that they don't support a path from version 1 to version 3 without going through version 2 first.

It's quite possible to get a legit version of the Windows 7 Beta. I downloaded the MSDN image file and registered for a FREE official key from Microsoft. I am currently running Windows 7 Ultimate Build 7000 on one of my computers and it's running flawlessly. The performance does seem a lot better than Vista, especially boot times. The interface does look a lot cleaner and I love the new taskbar.

Overall, it's not too much different from Vista, but it's definitely a noticeable improvement in both performance and interface, so in my eyes that's one good windows upgrade.

The only thing I have to complain about is the name. Vista is Windows 6.0 and Windows 7 is 6.1. I think calling it Windows 7 was a bad idea...

Lets quickly go through some of the recent major windows releases:
Windows 5.0: 2000
Windows 5.1: XP
Windows 6.0: Vista
Windows 6.1: Windows 7
 
This does not make any apparent sense to me. Are they thinking that this is the naming scheme? ->

1: Windows 3.1
2: Windows 95
3: Windows 98
4: Windows 2000
5: Windows XP
6: Windows Vista
7: Windows 7

This is the only thing I can think of.


It's based off the philosophy many games have their numbering, that is: "It's that number because I say it is!". Even it's NT number is 6.1, so they can't use that as the excuse.
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: chip! on April 28, 2009, 11:15:21 am
so... Windows 3.1 is patient 1? 

haha
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: TheHalf™ on April 28, 2009, 10:58:12 pm
What we need to know about Windows 7 Release Candidate.
Posted by Ed Bott @ 9:09 pm @ the ZDNet website.

Microsoft has finished its work on the Windows 7 Release Candidate and has announced a distribution schedule. For those who are thinking of evaluating this release, I’ve put together this FAQ. If you have any additional questions, ask them in the Talkback section; I’ll update this post as needed.

Complete article ----> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=880&tag=nl.e589 (http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=880&tag=nl.e589)

TheHalf™
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: chip! on April 29, 2009, 01:21:31 am
1: Windows 3.1
2: Windows 95
3: Windows 98
4: Windows 2000
5: Windows XP
6: Windows Vista
7: Windows 7


I found this article which apparently gives the one and only reason why its going to be 6.1 instead of 7.0:  an attempt at increased application compatibility.


http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/10/14/why-7.aspx (http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/10/14/why-7.aspx)

And here's how the Windows releases are counted and numbered:

1. Windows 1.0
2. Windows 2.0
3: Windows 3.0
3.1: Windows 3.1
4: Windows 95
4.0.1998: Windows 98
4.10.2222: Windows 98 SE
4.90.3000: Windows ME
5: Windows 2000
5.1: Windows XP
6: Windows Vista
6.1: Windows 7

so, they did the same version numbering thing with 98 - 2000 - XP...

FTA:

"Windows 2000 code was 5.0 and then we shipped Windows XP as 5.1, even though it was a major release we didn't' want to change code version numbers to maximize application compatibility."

"We learned a lot about using 5.1 for XP and how that helped developers with version checking for API compatibility.  We also had the lesson reinforced when we applied the version number in the Windows Vista code as Windows 6.0-- that changing basic version numbers can cause application compatibility issues. So we decided to ship the Windows 7 code as Windows 6.1"


Title: How to Upgrade Windows 7 Beta Build 7000 to Windows 7 RC Build 7100 - Windows 7
Post by: chip! on April 29, 2009, 02:07:30 am
http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrade-windows-7-beta-build-7000-to-windows-7-rc-build-7100.htm (http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrade-windows-7-beta-build-7000-to-windows-7-rc-build-7100.htm)

How to Upgrade Windows 7 Beta Build 7000 to Windows 7 RC Build 7100

1. Download Windows 7 RC build 7100 (if you downloaded Leaked Windows 7 RC which is not in the form of ISO then Skip to Step Number 3)

Filename: 7100.0.090421-1700_x86fre_client_en-us_Retail_Ultimate-GRC1CULFRER_EN_DVD.iso  (32bit)

2. If you have downloaded Windows 7 RC in the form of ISO DVD then Burn ISO on dvd and copy all files & folder to your Hard Disk Drive. You may use ISO file mounting tool to extract files.

3. Now Access Source directory within Widows 7 Copied files & folder.

4. Open the file cversion.ini in a text editor like Notepad.

5. Replace miniclient value from 7100 to any lower build for e.g 7100 to 7000

6. Now Save the file cversion.ini

7. Run installer.

The above steps will be required for an RC to RTM upgrade installation.    ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: chip! on May 09, 2009, 06:33:34 am
Some interesting benchmarks on Windows 7 RC1 compared to Vista and XP...  guess which OS is winning?

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3557&p=15 (http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3557&p=15)
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: Quantum on May 09, 2009, 09:02:48 am
Some interesting benchmarks on Windows 7 RC1 compared to Vista and XP...  guess which OS is winning?

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3557&p=15 (http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3557&p=15)

Notice they compare 7 x64, Vista x64 and XP x64. The thing here is that XP x64 is based off Windows Server 2003 and has a different performance portfolio to the original XP.
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: TheHalf™ on May 09, 2009, 11:02:24 pm
Has any one installed Win7 and if so how did you go about installing? ie: separate partition or upgrade 'cause what I'd like to do since I have 4 separate HDD's is dedicate one solely for installing Win7. Any replies will be very helpful.

TheHalf™
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: chip! on June 01, 2009, 04:46:36 pm
Hey... I've done it a few times now..

The first time, I choose to install it to a separate partition.. and thus dual boot Vista & Windows 7...  this was painless and required nothing other than already having the D:\ partition setup. The clean install setup took about 35 minutes and I had no problems.

The 2nd time, I choose to "upgrade" that Win 7 installation using my post above that changes the "cversion.ini" so that the installer will upgrade the "Beta" to the "RC"...  this also was painless, aside from having to make that minor file change... but the upgrade took a little over an hour.  If I would do it again, I would skip the upgrade and just format my D:\ and start fresh.  I have not tried to "upgrade" a Windows Vista partition to straight Win 7..    while this WILL be possible with the RTM of Win 7,  I dont know off hand if it can be done with the RC. I am guessing that it can with a simple modification of the "cversion.ini" to include a minor= build of 6000  (Vista).   

But keep in mind that the RC will expire sometime next year, so I would advise you to first install it as a dual-boot machine, in case you want to fall back to Vista.. (or i guess WinXP)..   

Any other specific questions.. I'd be happy to answer.. :)

thanks!
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: chip! on June 09, 2009, 04:30:14 pm
http://www.gosugoon.com/ (http://www.gosugoon.com/)

here you can find links to torrents with the latest leaks of win 7 builds...  awesome :)
Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: chip! on June 17, 2009, 12:04:01 pm
for those of you who are interested.. the first Windows 7 RTM Candidate has been released:

Windows 7 RTM Candidate build 7260 x86 (by WZT)
http://www.gosugoon.com/data/7260.0.x86fre.090612-2110.client_en-us.ultimate_loader_7201x86-gosugoon.iso.torrent (http://www.gosugoon.com/data/7260.0.x86fre.090612-2110.client_en-us.ultimate_loader_7201x86-gosugoon.iso.torrent)

This is one of the last builds before it is finalized and sent off to the computer manufactures and DVD/CD presses. There might be one or 2 more "builds", but at this point, Windows 7 is feature complete, entirely stable, and rocking awesome!

According to many sources, the actual Windows 7 RTM will be released June 19th, 2009. However, the main advantage of using one of the last RTM Canidates is that your FREE beta license keys WILL work.. so you can keep using the product for free until it expires... March 2010.   If you wait to install the RTM, then you will have to use a new license key..  etc.

Title: Re: Microsoft reveals their next OS - Windows 7
Post by: Agent24 on July 07, 2009, 06:22:53 pm
:D :D Bovski  :D :D

At first glance I thought that the ad was for real because I skimmed through. Then I saw pirate edition and and read the description and was like WTF til I read the other spoof's ..... ;D

Same... I like Windows 7, at least it's faster than Vista but I hate the new taskbar  :(