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Title: New PC
Post by: TheNightWatchman on August 16, 2006, 07:48:15 pm
So I bought a Dell Demo PC for $800 (NZ) which is really cheap considering it's pretty much brand new... specs are


Intel Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz (dual core)
512mb DDR2 Memory
RADEON X300 SE 128MB HyperMemory
80GB SATA Hard Drive
CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive

I've already put in my DVD Dual Layer drive
My 200GB hard drive is IDE so it doesn't fit, buying a SATA 250GB drive soon
buying a 1GB stick of DDR2 memory soon

Do you think I should bother upgrading my graphics card (noting that I'm buying this PC for video editing, not games or anything like that, so these 7800GTXs are out of the question, but I'm just thinking if it's worth me spending $200 on a 7300GT or similar?)

What do you think anyway?
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: kyopedlr on August 16, 2006, 09:42:02 pm
I'd go for the 7800 GTX

-kyopedlr
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: billyfridge on August 16, 2006, 10:12:20 pm
nice one Banana.....l wish l could afford one with those specs :(
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: texasboy on August 17, 2006, 05:28:29 am
To be on the safe side you might need to check with Dell due to problem with batteries catching fire.

May only be for notebooks.

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2003826,00.asp
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/07/dell_laptop_batteries.html
cheers
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: Quantum on August 18, 2006, 12:54:51 am
Sorry, even for that price (Google tells me that's about £270), you could of probabily put something together yourself for a bit better.

Problem is compared to AMD X2s and Core 2 Duo, the Pentium D is pretty much obselete. If you were to buy your own hard drive you would find it quite cheap these days to buy something quite cheap at 160 - 200 GB. If I were you I would defintly look at adding another 512 MB of ram, it will make a difference.

I googled the "RADEON X300 SE 128MB HyperMemory" and according to this: http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?page=2&articleid=662

It is actually outperformed by a NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache 128.

For the price you're talking about I would highly look at getting something like a GeForce 6600 or 6800 (you can get some pretty good versions of these, clock speed, memory type and features all matter, try and see if you can get a site with some feedback or check up a site that benchmarks them). If you don't play much games that were made in the last 2 years, I guess a 7300 would be perfect then.
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: kyopedlr on August 18, 2006, 04:22:23 am
The recall is for Dell laptops not desktops...

-kyopedlr
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: weera on August 19, 2006, 04:08:26 am
Guys, I've been wondering about these  dual core CPUs.
Is Intel Dual Core CPU released? And was it Pentium D?
And what about this new CPU that'll be twice much faster than AMD?
And what'll be the name for this new Intel CPU?

Thanks alot for helping me out guys :)
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: kyopedlr on August 19, 2006, 05:41:31 am
Dual cores been out for awhile... the newest ones are quad cores

-kyopedl
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: texasboy on August 19, 2006, 08:30:29 am
Guys, I've been wondering about these  dual core CPUs.
Is Intel Dual Core CPU released? And was it Pentium D?
And what about this new CPU that'll be twice much faster than AMD?
And what'll be the name for this new Intel CPU?

Thanks alot for helping me out guys :)

This might help Weera.

http://www.intel.com/cd/products/services/emea/eng/desktop/processors/300131.htm?ppc_cid=ggl|c2d_uk_dualcore|k6D93|s

http://www.intel.com/personal/news/core2duo_events.htm

cheers
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: kyopedlr on August 19, 2006, 10:38:47 am
personally I would wait a bit... they are still experimenting...

-kyopedlr
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: TheNightWatchman on August 19, 2006, 06:05:45 pm
Sorry, even for that price (Google tells me that's about £270), you could of probabily put something together yourself for a bit better.

Are you kidding?

A new 250GB hard drive I'm buying is $150
a 1GB stick of RAM i'm buying is about $120

The CPU itself is about $300

I haven't even started on anything else - this PC from Dell with the warranty I got is worth $1700 NZ

Plus all I'm looking at is, what will be the different in buying a new graphics card?

All I see is a few hundred down the drain... because I will be able to play some new game that looks cool that I will get bored of in a week, that's about it lol.
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: TheNightWatchman on August 20, 2006, 07:12:37 pm
Out of interest, what would be the worth in getting a ATI RADEON 256MB X600 PCI-EXPRESS X16 (I know nothing about Radeon), as this is being sold in an auction here (also with a lot of memory and a 250 GB HDD that I wanted... nice)
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: weera on August 21, 2006, 05:05:12 pm
This might help Weera.

http://www.intel.com/cd/products/services/emea/eng/desktop/processors/300131.htm?ppc_cid=ggl|c2d_uk_dualcore|k6D93|s

http://www.intel.com/personal/news/core2duo_events.htm

cheers

Thx for those links Tex.. :)
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: TheNightWatchman on August 21, 2006, 08:01:37 pm
Wow just set up with dual monitors, it's so fun! Editing gonna be awesome now
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: billyfridge on August 23, 2006, 01:33:19 pm
I just got my new PC, so l got dual flat screen monitors now......so has Kyo, but he wont tell me how he uses them ::)
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: Quantum on August 24, 2006, 03:03:42 am
Out of interest, what would be the worth in getting a ATI RADEON 256MB X600 PCI-EXPRESS X16 (I know nothing about Radeon), as this is being sold in an auction here (also with a lot of memory and a 250 GB HDD that I wanted... nice)
It's worth about the same as a 6800LE, it's a good card but has been known to break often, I wouldn't buy in an auction.

It costs £70 new here which is about $210 NZ right? But I don't know what the difference in tax and stuff is.



Sorry, even for that price (Google tells me that's about £270), you could of probabily put something together yourself for a bit better.

Are you kidding?

A new 250GB hard drive I'm buying is $150
a 1GB stick of RAM i'm buying is about $120

The CPU itself is about $300

I haven't even started on anything else - this PC from Dell with the warranty I got is worth $1700 NZ

Plus all I'm looking at is, what will be the different in buying a new graphics card?

All I see is a few hundred down the drain... because I will be able to play some new game that looks cool that I will get bored of in a week, that's about it lol.


I am not kidding, I could of put a better system together for that price (not fantasticly better, but certainly better). It costs £10 more to get a 200GB hdd over a 80GB hdd. The graphics card there I never even knew that the ATI "x" series went as low as 300, I doubt they could of sold it for £5 on its own. CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive is a rip off, you should have a CD-RW/DVD-RW combo, given that they cost less than £20 to buy.

The CPU sells for "$300" maybe, but it's not "worth" $300, the state of the CPU market at the moment and you can always get a better one for the same price a week later. I know much better ones for that price now.

What DDR2 memory are we talking about? Because if its 533, again its a rip off, you can get 667 for the same price these days and even when I put budget computers together these days I always stick 1 GB in.

The warranty is pretty good (the one thing I think Dells are worth), but the fact you break it by upgrading components yourself, kind of sucks.
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: TheNightWatchman on August 25, 2006, 09:16:46 pm
Well, if that's true, then the prices here differ extremely to the prices over where you are. You say there's a 10 pound difference between a 80GB hdd and a 200GB hdd, just had a look and there's a 20 pound difference (converting) in the price of the same here.

Whatever, it's working now, which is more than I can say about my old one!
Title: Re: New PC
Post by: billyfridge on August 26, 2006, 06:40:47 am
OMG.....I just sh*t myself...........I was uninstalling a broadband prog off my new PC and i got the dreaded blue screen...i went into 'restore'.....no calendar, so no restore points.........i just managed to get it going in 'last good configuration thingy........PHEEEEEEEEW....lol