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Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: johnb on November 19, 2007, 03:22:05 am
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Hi All,
i'm very new to all this so was wondering what download speed you guys were averaging out at? I will have a 4meg ADSL line tomorrow and my 1 meg is currently downloading at 110kB/s and rising. IS this any good or is there anything you would recommend I look at to better this?
Cheers
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Speeds are advertised in megabits per second, but download speeds are calculated in megabytes per second.
There are 8 megabits in 1 megabyte.
So 110kB/s is 110 kilobytes per second is 880 kilobits per second, so that's about 88% of your current maximum theoretical download rate, so that's very good.
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There are precisely 8 bits in 1 byte. However since the conversion from bits to kilobit and megabit are factors of 1000, and the conversion from byte to kilobyte and megabyte are factors of 1024, you simply can't say that there are 8 megabits in a megabyte. It's going to be slightly off if you want to be technical.
It's tough to go directly from megabytes to megabits, there are roughly 8.388608 megabits in a megabyte. It's therefore easier to convert whatever you have to bits or bytes, then back to what you want them in.
110 KB/sec is 901.1kbps, so that's even closer to 1Mbps then we thought...
I use the bandwidth calculator on BBR to do my calculations:
http://www.dslreports.com/calculator?sz=&time=&speed=110+KBps&c3=Calc
Back to the point if you get a 4Mbps line, you should be expecting speeds around 488.3 KB/sec, assuming there are ample peers and seeds to download from.
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Well no, technically
1000 bits = 1 kilobit
1000 bytes = 1 kilobyte
1024 bits = 1 kibibit
1024 bytes = 1 kibibyte
But that's not important, how the ISPs measure it is important. In the U.K when they say 8 mbps connection they mean 8*1024*1024 bits per second, they may scam you even more in the U.S than they do in the U.K though.
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I forgot that you guys use kibibit. In the U.S. we only use kilobyte and kilobit.
For us:
If someone says kB or KB then that's kilobyte. kb or Kb is kilobit.
I have a 8Mbps connection here and it's 976.6 kilobytes a second, which is exactly 8,000,000 bits per second., rather than the slightly faster 8x2^20 which is what it would be in europe.
Even if you guys use kibibit, 1024 bytes should still be a kilobyte though. All the programs I use (uTorrent, etc) report in kilobytes per second, so that's what I use for measurements.
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I take back what I said in the last part. I understand why you guys use 1024 bytes in a kilobyte now, since the REAL SI prefix kilo is for 1000. (kibi is for 1024)
wow we have a messed up system in the US..
at least we don't refer to weight as stones though :)
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I take back what I said in the last part. I understand why you guys use 1024 bytes in a kilobyte now, since the REAL SI prefix kilo is for 1000. (kibi is for 1024)
wow we have a messed up system in the US..
at least we don't refer to weight as stones though :)
Haha, technically speaking we've moved to metric for everything other than measurement of distance (all our road signs and speedometres are still in miles). But yeah, just through habit most people refer to weight of a person in stones. But measurement of most weight is now metric like we can go and get 2 kgs of Potatoes, with notable exceptions of old street markets and milk which is still mainly measured in pints , although often the bottles say 0.568 litres lol.
It's ofcourse worth mentioning that at this point, our pints are bigger than yours, 1 of our pints is about 1.2 of your pints :P
And yeah, I was about to make a post on SI units and stuff and how it's very important in maths and science to have no ambiguity, so we don't end up in a mess :D. But the forum pointed out a new post had been made.
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It's just understanding kB - kb and recognizing the upper\lower case b and in some instances where the b is always lower case the upper and lower case k...Kb\KB. Anyhoo there's a simple conversion calculator you can use to identify what you may be getting for what your paying for:
Click there---> http://www.testmy.net/tools/convert.php (http://www.testmy.net/tools/convert.php)
And here would be my Kb\KB or kb\KB: 15Mbps\2Mbps (15,000,000\2,000,000) = 1831.05MB\244.14MB
TheHalf™
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It's just understanding kB - kb and recognizing the upper\lower case b and in some instances where the b is always lower case the upper and lower case k...Kb\KB. Anyhoo there's a simple conversion calculator you can use to identify what you may be getting for what your paying for:
Click there---> http://www.testmy.net/tools/convert.php (http://www.testmy.net/tools/convert.php)
And here would be my Kb\KB or kb\KB: 15Mbps\2Mbps (15,000,000\2,000,000) = 1831.05MB\244.14MB
TheHalf™
Somehow I don't think 15Mbps = 1831.05 MBps :P :P
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Perhaps I made a typo (hope not):
15000000 Kbps
15000000 Kbps is 1831054.69 kB/s
Or 15000 Mbps ::: 1831.05 MB/sec
TheHalf™
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Perhaps I made a typo (hope not):
15000000 Kbps
15000000 Kbps is 1831054.69 kB/s
Or 15000 Mbps ::: 1831.05 MB/sec
TheHalf™
Well that sort of makes sense using your silly American system, but nobody other than people who access to the backbone structure of the internet has speeds that fast.
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I may disagree with you Quantum, I 'm with roadrunner (who thru Time Warner) acquired Adelphia that used to be my ISP.
Adelphia's backbone (US): http://www.adelphiacom.net/ (http://www.adelphiacom.net/)
And my current speedtest results via testmy.net:
:::.. Download Stats ..:::
Download Connection is:: 18217 Kbps about 18.2 Mbps (tested with 12160 kB)
Download Speed is:: 2224 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (Main)
Test Time:: 2007/11/28 - 7:50pm
Bottom Line:: 318X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 0.46 sec
Tested from a 12160 kB file and took 5.468 seconds to complete
Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 253.32 % faster than the average for host (rr.com)
D-Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-GCF6OIWRS
User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; Media Center PC 3.0; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) [!]
TheHalf™
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You'd be surprised Quantum, at the internet speed diversity available here in the US. A lot of people still have 56k, some have 768Kbps/128Kbps or 1.5M/128k DSL. The average joe usually has 3Mbps/384Kbps cable or so.
But if you're lucky enough to live in an area where FTTH (fibre to the home) exists or extremely fast cable, then it's not odd to find people here with 20/20Mbps symmetrical speeds at a residence for $65 US a month or so (average is about 40-50 for "normal cable").
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uhhh what?
I said you couldn't get speeds like that unless you were part of the backbone, TheHalf I quoted you on speeds 100x faster than what you have.
And I don't mean connected to some ISP which runs the backbone (as almost everyone in this country is) I mean quite literally sitting on a server which is connected to backbone wiring.
20/20 is a long way off 1831/244
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I thought you were aweing at the 15Mbps, yeah TheHalf definitely made some calculation errors.
He said "15000 Mbps ::: 1831.05 MB/sec" which I think he meant he has 15000Kbps or 15Mbps, which would be about 1.8 MB/sec.
What's the average connection in England, and what do you have?
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I thought you were aweing at the 15Mbps, yeah TheHalf definitely made some calculation errors.
He said "15000 Mbps ::: 1831.05 MB/sec" which I think he meant he has 15000Kbps or 15Mbps, which would be about 1.8 MB/sec.
What's the average connection in England, and what do you have?
Average connection in the U.K at the moment seems to be 8/0.5, which I'm on at the moment, last year I was on 16/1 though. You can get up to 24 or 25 I believe though.
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I can't really say what an average is here, but I have 5/.5 at my apartment in Worcester when I'm at school. My parents have 8/.768 with 16/2 speedboost (runs at faster for first 100 megabytes) so I use that when I'm back home.
The most residential right now is about 30/20 but that's only with fibre. Pretty soon there will be much more fibre deployment and with DOCSIS 3.0 coming out, I suspect the averages should be going up quite a bit.
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It's just understanding kB - kb and recognizing the upper\lower case b and in some instances where the b is always lower case the upper and lower case k...Kb\KB. Anyhoo there's a simple conversion calculator you can use to identify what you may be getting for what your paying for:
Click there---> http://www.testmy.net/tools/convert.php (http://www.testmy.net/tools/convert.php)
And here would be my Kb\KB or kb\KB: 15Mbps\2Mbps (15,000,000\2,000,000) = 1831.05MB\244.14MB
TheHalf™
Somehow I don't think 15Mbps = 1831.05 MBps :P :P
Oh that's an oversight on Quantums part. I did not type 15Mbps = 1831.05MBps; here's what I did type - "15Mbps\2Mbps (15,000,000\2,000,000) = 1831.05MB\244.14MB" although I should have stated bits back there in parenthesis :P
TheHalf™
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It's just understanding kB - kb and recognizing the upper\lower case b and in some instances where the b is always lower case the upper and lower case k...Kb\KB. Anyhoo there's a simple conversion calculator you can use to identify what you may be getting for what your paying for:
Click there---> http://www.testmy.net/tools/convert.php (http://www.testmy.net/tools/convert.php)
And here would be my Kb\KB or kb\KB: 15Mbps\2Mbps (15,000,000\2,000,000) = 1831.05MB\244.14MB
TheHalf™
Somehow I don't think 15Mbps = 1831.05 MBps :P :P
Oh that's an oversight on Quantums part. I did not type 15Mbps = 1831.05MBps; here's what I did type - "15Mbps\2Mbps (15,000,000\2,000,000) = 1831.05MB\244.14MB" although I should have stated bits back there in parenthesis :P
TheHalf™
:( it still doesn't seem to make any kind of sense, there's no way that 15'000'000 bits = 1831.05MBs
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15Mbps\2Mbps (15,000,000\2,000,000) = 1831.05MB\244.14MB
The left side is right, 15M is 15 million, but the right side is wrong. I'm not sure what you're using for your calculation but it's probably something simple that you're missing.
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It's just understanding kB - kb and recognizing the upper\lower case b and in some instances where the b is always lower case the upper and lower case k...Kb\KB. Anyhoo there's a simple conversion calculator you can use to identify what you may be getting for what your paying for:
Click there---> http://www.testmy.net/tools/convert.php (http://www.testmy.net/tools/convert.php)
And here would be my Kb\KB or kb\KB: 15Mbps\2Mbps (15,000,000\2,000,000) = 1831.05MB\244.14MB
TheHalf™
Somehow I don't think 15Mbps = 1831.05 MBps :P :P
Oh that's an oversight on Quantums part. I did not type 15Mbps = 1831.05MBps; here's what I did type - "15Mbps\2Mbps (15,000,000\2,000,000) = 1831.05MB\244.14MB" although I should have stated bits back there in parenthesis :P
TheHalf™
:( it still doesn't seem to make any kind of sense, there's no way that 15'000'000 bits = 1831.05MBs
Oh your right Quantum...those miniscule typos that I am so infamous for: that should be 15'000'000 = 1831.05kBs or 1.83 MB/sec, my bad.
TheHalf™
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15Mbps\2Mbps (15,000,000\2,000,000) = 1831.05MB\244.14MB
The left side is right, 15M is 15 million, but the right side is wrong. I'm not sure what you're using for your calculation but it's probably something simple that you're missing.
Ya, as simple as kB/s not MB/s, again my bad.
TheHalf™
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:D I'm 10x worse, I always have to read my posts through at least twice before I go to the next thread and then I often still have typos or mistakes in them.
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I usually edit my posts 2-3 times after I post them :p
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I'm currently with Virginmedia ( ex NTL ) in the UK and have a 20Mb/768Kb cable connection ( the sooner they dig up all this useless copper the better ).
Download speeds as most will know vary greatly. At the moment I'm being traffic shaped due to my high usage ( a practice that Virgin sneaked in without too much af a public fanfare ) and find my speed suffers a lot.
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/215061464.png)
But I have hit near my theoretical max when downloading from newsgroups. I can often get speeds between 1500 and 1800 kB/s.
I think what the original poster was interested in was what kind of speeds are people downloading with a bit torrent client. That's always hard to say because I can only download as fast as the data is pushed to me. I rarely hit above 900kB/s with a torrent client.
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I think what the original poster was interested in was what kind of speeds are people downloading with a bit torrent client. That's always hard to say because I can only download as fast as the data is pushed to me. I rarely hit above 900kB/s with a torrent client.
I regularly hit 1.1MB/s on torrents on a connection whose DSL speeds are reporting at about 11 | 1 ;D
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I don't know to tell all of that speed stuff but I can say 2 days in and WOW! Why have I wasted my time with things such as limewire, bearshare, etc.. :o
Oh torrent..
I'm in luv!
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I've got Qwest DSL, and I've checked my speed at 6Megs, and here I thought I was fast... :(
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hi i use virign network for my internet . here my speed results
download=1.04Kbps
upload=0.77Kbps
i test my speed here http://www.ip-details.com/ (http://www.ip-details.com/) .i felt satisfied with my results.
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1 byte is 8 bits are correct. kilobit megabits and up to 1000 bits are elements of the transformation, the bytes into kilobytes and megabytes is an element of the transition, however, since 1024, in megabytes, you simply can not say that there are 8 megabits. Technology to stay away if you want to do a little.
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well i am using a 512kbits/s adsl connection. but i rather do my downloads using Internet Download Manager., which speeds up a little