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big-ah

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what is the better Graphic Card ??
« on: August 22, 2007, 08:29:25 am »
hello friends,

so, i need to buy a new VGA Graphic card, but i don't have any idea about what's the news in this world!
what is the better Graphic Card i need ??

have you any idea about that ?!

thank you
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Re: what is the better Graphic Card ??
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2007, 09:09:20 am »
hello friends,

so, i need to buy a new VGA Graphic card, but i don't have any idea about what's the news in this world!
what is the better Graphic Card i need ??

have you any idea about that ?!

thank you
 ???

Give us some specs on the pc you are presently running and we all might be able to help you
cheers

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Re: what is the better Graphic Card ??
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2007, 06:59:05 pm »
First you need to look at what your computer can take, almost all new graphics cards require a PCI-E x16 slot in your motherboard, if it's a bit older than 2 years it probabily has the older AGP slot which severly limits what you can buy.

Secondly you need to choose a price range, it really starts from 'ultra budget' at £30 - £60 ($50 - $100) to ultra high end at about £400 ($750). The best price / performance ratio where you can get some really kick ass games at the moment is probabily in the £170 - £210 range ($300 - $400). So yeah, you really need to choose how much you want to spend beforehand given the very wide range that is available to you these days.
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Re: what is the better Graphic Card ??
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2007, 02:17:44 am »
Yea i agree wit some ppl on here we need to know da size of urs but i think da one i had put in my gateway was by XD but i dont  but it ran very well

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Re: what is the better Graphic Card ??
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2007, 01:47:35 am »
 :o wow great!

thank you friends, i think i will buy a new computer! :) with the new technologies!!

what about CPU ? Memory cards DDR2 ?!!  i need to learn and use it for 3D Graphics programs rander!

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Re: what is the better Graphic Card ??
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2007, 09:44:30 am »
:o wow great!

thank you friends, i think i will buy a new computer! :) with the new technologies!!

what about CPU ? Memory cards DDR2 ?!!  i need to learn and use it for 3D Graphics programs rander!

CPUs:

The two big competitors are Intel and AMD now, both are running on DDR2 mainly, but Intel can also run on DDR3 with a new special motherboard. However DDR2 is VERY CHEAP to buy at the moment.

Intel are currently using socket LGA775. They've been on LGA775 for some time now and you need to be careful if you expect it to work with their new CPUs coming out at the start of next year (Penryn), you'll probabily needed the latest chipsets on your motherboard as sometimes upgrading on the same socket can be a little odd with Intel.

AMD are currently using socket AM2, they plan to upgrade to AM2+ by the end of the year. Both will run exclusively on DDR2. These sockets are intercompatible (though older motherboards might need a BIOS update), however if you buy an AM2+ CPU at the end of the year with an AM2+ Socket, you will receive a few extra benefits in power consumption and minor speed improvements.

As it stands Intel dominate the high end market (fast dual cores and quad cores). AMD stand on their own 2 feet and are very competitive in the budget arena ($200 and less). The mid-range is a little bit more difficult, but probabily Intel have the advantage. This may change when AMD bring their new CPUs out at the end of the year, as early benchmarks of Penryn put it only about 5% faster clock for clock.

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Re: what is the better Graphic Card ??
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2007, 12:02:25 pm »
thank you Quantum,

can you talk me about the CPU revolution from P4 to now ?! i think i wasn't in this world for 3 years!  :-\

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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2007, 08:41:29 pm »
thank you Quantum,

can you talk me about the CPU revolution from P4 to now ?! i think i wasn't in this world for 3 years!  :-\

Well essentially P4 was crap, it consumed too much power, generated too much heat and increasing its clock speed didn't provide huge leaps in performance, so Intel scrapped the line all together. While P4 was out, AMD came out with the Athlon 64 and the Opteron line which just battered P4 and Xeon in the desktop and server markets, consuming less power, generating less heat and out performing them considerably. The Athlon 64 was a 64 bit CPU, it was backwards compatible with all 32 bit stuff and if you couple it with a 64 bit OS you can go over 4GB of RAM Which you can't with 32 bit stuff. Intel released a 64 bit CPU called Itanium, which essentially bombed, it wasn't backwards compatible and emulation of old code was VERY slow. Intel also tried releasing dual cores based on its netburst architecture (i.e Pentium 4), but they scaled poorly and were again left behind by the Athlons.

Fortunately for Intel they were working on a 2nd line of CPUs, the Pentium M line. Based on developing a fast CPU at low power and heat, it developed a lot better ideas than the Pentium 4, in fact its starting point wasn't Pentium 4, it was Pentium 3, it has developed in a completely different direction. The Pentium M architecture was developed and turned in to the Core architecture, still unable to compete with AMD in the desktop market, they devloped it again in to the Core 2 architecture (called Conroe). Finally Intel had a better performing CPU than AMD, and they were going to use it to stuff AMD as much as possible and try and gain the market back as much as possible. So for the last year we've been caught in a price was between Intel and AMD.

AMD, after 1 year, are about to finally respond and release their own new architecture (Barcelona), it does a lot of the things the Core2 line did to become so fast, but as of yet now real official benchmarks or well done independent benchmarks have come out. This will be released to their server market and later in the year a similar CPU architecture (Agena) will be released to the desktop market. Intel will be releasing their new die refresh, (they're going from 65 nanometres to 45 nanometres), while there are some architecture improvements, it looks like without SSE4 optimization (a new instruction set they are introducing), it will only average about 5% faster than their current CPUs.
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Re: what is the better Graphic Card ??
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2007, 09:12:23 pm »
Thank you, ;)

your wonderful, I have been very interested in technology news, but after the appearance of the new generation, I can not understand this tremendous amount of information  ???...

Thank you again and I wish you success. :)